User talk:Psl631

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Hello[edit source]

What are you doing, friend? SelfSealingStemBolts (talk) 14:48, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm the founder of this wiki. I are shortly start to import pages from the other Uncyclopedias to this Uncyclopedia. You are free to edit here friend. --Psl631 (talk) 14:53, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes but I am an admin on the Uncyclopedia you seem to be copying. I'm not sure why you're doing this. Was there something about the original site you didn't like? SelfSealingStemBolts (talk) 23:02, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
@SelfSealingStemBolts: I want just to start a new Uncyclopedia, but you are welcome here to contribute :)! Also, we need more articles here! --Psl631 (talk) 10:01, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

On imports[edit source]

Hi, to avoid conflicts, here's a tip I can make for you.

  1. Add the source to the original content so that it will be clear where it's from and who the contributors are.
  2. Or, simply import pages including the past revisions.

While CC does allow you to fork a wiki, you should do it according to the rules. Thanks.--開拓者 (talk) 03:49, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@開拓者 Ok, I like to import from wikipedia and some of their templates. And I only want to import the current revision instead of all old revisions. Ok --Psl631 (talk) 13:24, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Regardless, you're legally required to import all revisions to provide proper attribution to the people you're copying your content from, per the license. You also haven't received permission to use the Uncyclopedia logo or wordmark. In short, your wiki is a gigantic copyright violation. 103.4.18.143 03:02, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Also, it's probably not a good idea to spam users on other wikis with links and requests to edit here, chief. Especially when you're stealing content from them. 103.4.18.143 03:08, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
I wrote some pages with non-copyright violation, and I promise not to copy from other Uncyclopedias. Which pages are copyright violations, IP user? --Psl631 (talk) 09:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Attribution[edit source]

As was discussed on the Miraheze discord, you should either import the revision history of contributions on en.uncyclopedia.co or provide a link to the original source. Roza (talk) 04:13, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Copyright information[edit source]

Hi, please be aware that, when importing content, proper attribution must be supplied to the original authors. This can be done in two ways, either you import the full history of all the pages you import, or you provide a link on the current revision to the original page. This is required by our Content Policy, and, should you fail to comply, your wiki will be closed. Also, be aware that a user, on both IRC and Discord, has used your username and behaved in an inappropriate manner. Should this have been you, please be aware that further behavior such as that will not be tolerated on any Miraheze platform. If not, well, you don't have to worry. -- Void Whispers 04:28, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Okay --Psl631 (talk) 09:04, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
To resolve this, I've made this template {{Imported}} for you. Please use it on pages that have already been imported from other wikis. Thanks.--開拓者 (talk) 19:00, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Ok. While you left the message i was testing abuse filter that should block spambots. please check the filter for errors so it works please :). Also i did not got any notification while you left the message. Minor edits to user talk pages will not trigger any notifications about new talk page messages have I decided. --Psl631 (talk) 19:39, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Interwiki issues[edit source]

Hi, I'd like to tell you several interwiki tips regarding this Uncyclopedia and other Uncyclopedias (including but not limited to .co and the ones hosted by Carlb).

  1. There are already several Uncyclopedias that have been forked during the history. We can choose our own interwiki combinations regarding this (the ones on wikia have their own, the independent ones have their own, and the Polish and the Japanese here on Miraheze have their own). The list of forked versions as far as I know are listed on the Polish Uncyclopedia, since I had negotiations with them in the past. So my question is, which versions do you prefer to use for your interwiki, or would you like to try assigning language codes to all of them as I did on our fork?
  2. If you want your wiki recognized by other Uncyclopedias, you need to make a deal with them. Negotiations with the ones on wikia will probably not work, because they prefer using the wikia versions no matter what. However, you can negotiate with the independent versions, the ones on Miraheze, and the ones hosted by Carlb. I think the biggest deal you should make is that with Carlb's Uncyclopedias, and for that, you need to make a request on UnMeta. Since this wiki being a fork, you will probably need a valid reason for them to recognize your wiki (together with .co, the one they chose to recognize as the English version) to make your request successful, though. I know en-gb is still available there, and I recommend you to claim this wiki to be the British English version to UnMeta, if you want to make it successful. The following may be good reasons to back up your new Uncyc2.0.
    • Technical issues. They have updated MW versions very often, while remaining some extensions obsolete. This caused some technical issues including but not limited to malfunction of some of the js and some errors of extensions (such as Math, {{#setlogo:}}, and so on), with the preview displayed under the editbox when editing.
    • Spamming issues. Spammers often appears to post their boring ads on .co. Also, they are suspected as the ones creating all those weird accounts without posts.
    • Both of these can be solved on this new wiki on Miraheze, and thus we'd like to have it recognized.

...or, something like these (it's lucky they no longer recognize the wikia version; they don't have the choice to recommend that version as an alternative, and you don't have to think of how our wiki can be better than theirs :)).--開拓者 (talk) 21:47, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Copyrights[edit source]

You have imported a substantial amount of material from uncyclopedia.co in creating this site, key elements such as the main page have been copied directly from the corresponding uncyclopedia.co pages. As you are no doubt aware, uncyclopedia.co content is available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0) licence. Your wiki uncyclopedia2.miraheze.org is relicensing this content under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) which is incompatible. As you are breaking the legal terms of the Creative Commons copyright license, your wiki is in violation of the Miraheze terms of use, specifically section 2. 'Copyright Violations'. Please be aware that this matter has been communicated with the Miraheze staff. Dysklyver (talk) 21:53, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

It is licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 by default, which is compatible with your license. I'll handle with the pages that were imported from wikipedia by the founder.--開拓者 (talk) 22:05, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
I do observe that the license has been changed. However, CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 is not compatible with CC BY-NC-SA 2.0. You may wish to consult the Creative Commons website for details on Compatible Licenses. For the sake of clarity I will point out that Wikipedia uses a different license, you will need to consider that separately. Dysklyver (talk) 22:21, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
OK, it's one-way compatibility, but still it will make our wiki legit, because contents licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA 2.0 can be licensed by "a later version of that BY-NC-SA license." So the thing is, import to our wiki is fine, but exporting to the two preceding Uncylopedias is not.--開拓者 (talk) 22:34, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
That is incorrect. Your contributions to a CC-BY-NC-SA 2.0 work may be licensed as CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0. However, this is only your contributions (additions) to the work. The original work must still be licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA 2.0, and any derivative you create in this way must be dual-licensed. Only the original authors are legally permitted to relicense their work, as Creative Commons licenses contain clauses to prevent sublicensing. Currently you are only using the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license and not a compatible or dual-license as is required. Dysklyver (talk) 23:06, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
OK, that may be your point of view, but our staff clearly says "licenses can go forward," and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. However, I guess we should clarify that contents imported from Uncyclopedias can still be used under 2.0 (which also another staff agrees), and I will clarify that point on our copyright page.--開拓者 (talk) 23:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
There's nothing wrong with the content being reused, the point is to do it properly. I would have to request admin rights to fix everything, but I don't mind helping out a little. Dysklyver (talk) 14:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Feel free to do that on Uncyc 2.0:Requests for adminship :) --Psl631 (talk) 14:45, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Right, I think it's a good idea, if you think you still need to do something about it.--開拓者 (talk) 15:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! I made a request over at Uncyc 2.0:Requests for adminship/Dysklyver. Dysklyver (talk) 15:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

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So to wrap it up, Template:Import needs to be added to every page that has been imported. It is legally sufficient / technically preferred to add it to the /doc subpage of the template if it is an imported template.

There is no need to add it to categories with no content. I am aware that some wikis add attribution templates to the talk page, the legal validity of this is untested and should thus be avoided. The import template isn't designed to be used on images, and you do not not need to add it to the mainpage.

There are a number of people that don't want another wiki called "Uncyclopedia", however, I understand that the term "Uncyclopedia" is owned by the original founder, and not by uncyclopedia.co or the Wikia site, and no one has registered it as a trademark. The logo is public domain, and also not a trademark, nor originally created by uncyclopedia.co even though it is apparently "their" logo. Dysklyver (talk) 14:06, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Discord invite[edit source]

Btw, people on Uncyclopedia 1.0 want to talk to you on Discord. Could you join us here?--開拓者 (talk) 23:55, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

On Spike-from-NH[edit source]

Hi, we have confirmed that Spike-from-NH is actually a spoofed account of Spike the Dog, or Spike from the Wikia version. I think you should remove his permissions before he does any harms on this wiki.--開拓者 (talk) 01:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@開拓者Excuse me, how do I remove that user's permissions? Can you notify him that his permissions will be removed? --Psl631 (talk) 07:56, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
You can simply uncheck the permissions from here. He'll be notified by a notice generated automatically, but I may leave a comment on his talk page if you want.--開拓者 (talk) 08:17, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
I removed the admin and bureaucrat rights from that user and I left a notice on his talk page. If this was innocent he can leave a notice here. --Psl631 (talk) 08:31, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks.--開拓者 (talk) 09:15, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Confirmation of your discord[edit source]

Hi, I'd like to confirm whether you are Psl85 on discord. Could you make it clear here on wiki? Thanks.--開拓者 (talk) 20:02, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes i'm psl85 on discord. thank you for asking 😃--Psl631 (talk) 20:04, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

On Filter 13[edit source]

It didn't trigger simply because you are the staff. There's nothing wrong with it.--開拓者 (talk) 15:16, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Aha..., can you pls try to move it and reply here with what that happened? --Psl631 (talk) 15:17, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
It triggered successfully. Please check out the AbuseLog.--開拓者 (talk) 15:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Spike: really not the normal admin who could expect[edit source]

Hello.

Please never give back admin rights to Spike, he is an abuser. I've been blocked just because he wanted to block someone, without doing nothing wrong. And above all, without being able to communicate with him, and blocked me from messaging anyone. It was not here, but on another site, and it was a long time ago, but the situation remains the same, it's impossible to make a normal and calm dialogue with him...

When trying to contact him to ask why and to give explanation, if my edit was not good, he removed me the ability to message him, without reply. When I've tried to ask for help on an userpage, because I couldn't reach him, asking if the user could ask an admin to send me a message. He removed the message, and blocked my IP indefinitely.

I've found a Wikia uncyclopedia, where I asked for help and send him a message to ask for being unblocked, he blocked me again here, with no message. "Only X was blocked on Y site. Asked for help here. Blocked".

So, blocked because I asked for help...

I'm not the only one who had big problems with him. And I'm not surprised he got his rights revoked.

See for instance here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Uncyclopedia/comments/2t0ie0/goddammit_spike_why_cant_i_edit https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Spike

It really appears is blocking everyone without good reasons. It's certainly not like this that a mature admin should do. That's only my experience with him, but I'm sure he does that with a lot of people, so it shouldn't be allowed to have responsabilities.

Best regards.

--PERCE-NEIGE (talk) 22:27, 3 June 2019 (UTC)